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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9540509" data-attributes="member: 6790260">2014: "Intimidation. When you attempt to influence someone through overt threats, hostile actions, and physical violence, the DM might ask you to make a Charisma (Intimidation) check."I dunno about you, but I'm really really not going to like someone who "influences" me "through overt threats, hostile actions, [or] physical violence."It's also specifically said, later in the DMG, that Intimidation checks are among the things that are liable to worsen a target's attitude (from friendly to neutral or neutral to hostile).Beyond that? It's quite possible for a book to never explicitly say something, and yet still encourage it to happen. Isn't that the core argument of all the folks who claim that modern games encourage "playing from the character sheet"? The books never, ever say to do that. They don't have even a single cite-able line that says to look to your character sheet first and never engage in problem solving. (Quite the reverse!) Yet the argument gets made, over and over and over and over and over again. Can I count on you to stand with me against that argument in the future, if it shows up, since you require explicit textual backing in order for something to be the fault of the books or rules, and not absolutely 100% the fault of a dismissable few bad DMs?</blockquote>