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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3388504" data-attributes="member: 29014">Sub-optimal?  I don't think so.  Perhaps suboptimal compared to incredible rules abuses like Pun-Pun, but that character can still DESTROY a standard build.  Also, one obviously need not spend every feat on the stacking feat--Build a level-20 Fighter-type (Barbarian, Paladin, etc is fine too) using core rules (or why not throw in Complete Warrior to give you more options--No other books though) standard wealth, and 25 PB (and no stacking Weapons Focus, obviously, since it is core rules) and I will build a Fighter with stacking Weapon Focus that will render the character you build irrelevant and automatically beat it in a fight.EDIT: As an aside, the Cha to Will saves and other such feats would do absolutely nothing if you took them multiple times, so they actually aren't broken ad infinitum.</blockquote>