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<blockquote data-quote="ccs" data-source="post: 6807634" data-attributes="member: 6803664"><p>Because the rogues a Variant Human, not an Elf. That IS the reason. Doesn't matter what class is involved. Heck, it could be a variant human fighter picking the feat, getting stuff early, and still becoming a battlemaster....</p><p></p><p>The human "advantage" has always been skill. AD&D humans were the only race that had no lv caps due to race. </p><p>3.x humans get a feat + skill.</p><p>4e humans = ?</p><p>5e gives us the Variant Human.</p><p></p><p>Besides, both Variant Human & feats are optional rules. If you combine enough optional rules you may find some combo you dislike....</p><p></p><p>In answer to your last question; No, nobody I play 5e with particularly cares about any Variant Human vrs Battle-master issue. </p><p>And if you brought it up to them they'd just shrug & tell you that well, each option has it's own merits/flaws. You choose to be an Elf to gain advantages xyz & be elvish. If you want to start with a bonus feat? Then you'll have to pick variant human*....</p><p></p><p></p><p>*Standing offer: You could always bribe me (the DM) & I'll let anybody have a bonus feat at 1st lv. I accept pizza. The variant human players? They get the feat without the bribe. </p><p> (our current game has 2 wood elves, 2 1/2elves, 1 variant human, 1 earth genisia, & 1 tiefling. Nobody bribed me <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ccs, post: 6807634, member: 6803664"] Because the rogues a Variant Human, not an Elf. That IS the reason. Doesn't matter what class is involved. Heck, it could be a variant human fighter picking the feat, getting stuff early, and still becoming a battlemaster.... The human "advantage" has always been skill. AD&D humans were the only race that had no lv caps due to race. 3.x humans get a feat + skill. 4e humans = ? 5e gives us the Variant Human. Besides, both Variant Human & feats are optional rules. If you combine enough optional rules you may find some combo you dislike.... In answer to your last question; No, nobody I play 5e with particularly cares about any Variant Human vrs Battle-master issue. And if you brought it up to them they'd just shrug & tell you that well, each option has it's own merits/flaws. You choose to be an Elf to gain advantages xyz & be elvish. If you want to start with a bonus feat? Then you'll have to pick variant human*.... *Standing offer: You could always bribe me (the DM) & I'll let anybody have a bonus feat at 1st lv. I accept pizza. The variant human players? They get the feat without the bribe. (our current game has 2 wood elves, 2 1/2elves, 1 variant human, 1 earth genisia, & 1 tiefling. Nobody bribed me :() [/QUOTE]
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