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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GlassJaw" data-source="post: 1831836" data-attributes="member: 22103">In a discussion like this, it invariably ends up being a powergaming vs min/maxing discussion.  I think most of the example here are min/maxing and not powergaming, although the original post is probably an example of powergaming.My definition of powergaming is wanting to have either the most powerful character or get some kind of extra bonus for minimal cost.  You just want to kill stuff really fast.  Usually, powergaming has a slight negative connotation to it.  The subject of the initial post wanted some extra skill bonus for virtually nothing in return.Min/maxing is a little different.  You just want a character that is effective at something and you want to be the best at that one thing.  It could be combat but not necessarily.Do you feel a need to justify that you aren't powergaming or min/maxing?  Just play.  I have actually seen this a lot lately with D&D/d20.  The system is so crunchy that there becomes a huge division between those that embrace the crunch and those that don't.  And then we end up with discussions like these.</blockquote>