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<blockquote data-quote="Krieg" data-source="post: 1863174" data-attributes="member: 5282">Heh, and here I always thought you had actually campaigned with the Old Guard. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Good points, but I do think a pretty strong case can be made that the so called guidelines are so lenient that if they had been place with earlier editions the &quot;Monty Haul&quot; label would have been slapped on them.I don't think anyone can argue that CRPGs have had an influence on some of the mechanics of D20 which in and of itself is not a bad thing. Those same mechanics are more modular in nature and offer far greater flexibility than their forebears. That is a very, very good thing.For me the problem stems from the CRPG &quot;mindset&quot; that has also jumped the barrier to cross-pollinate the perceptions of how to utilize those rule sets.The mechanics are not the issue, they are merely a tool. The devil is in the implementation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Krieg, post: 1863174, member: 5282"] Heh, and here I always thought you had actually campaigned with the Old Guard. :p Good points, but I do think a pretty strong case can be made that the so called guidelines are so lenient that if they had been place with earlier editions the "Monty Haul" label would have been slapped on them. I don't think anyone can argue that CRPGs have had an influence on some of the mechanics of D20 which in and of itself is not a bad thing. Those same mechanics are more modular in nature and offer far greater flexibility than their forebears. That is a very, very good thing. For me the problem stems from the CRPG "mindset" that has also jumped the barrier to cross-pollinate the perceptions of how to utilize those rule sets. The mechanics are not the issue, they are merely a tool. The devil is in the implementation. [/QUOTE]

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