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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 1867905" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>I thought long and hard on this over the past day or so. And it seems to me that it is based upon the assumption that the majority of gamers are... well, sheep. Stupid sheep, led by the nose. They tend to follow what is written, and not think for themselves. They are somehow victims of manipulation beyond which they cannot see.</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, but my experience with gamers is exactly the opposite, and I think the history of the game backs me up. RPG started with Gygax and friends sitting down and asking "Can we do something else with this?" Since then folks have been bending, folding, and mutilating the rules to their own pleasure. We have 3e primarily <em>because</em> of all the experimentation and wandering far afield by the players. </p><p></p><p>But suddenly, now, exactly how the rules are written is a big deal. As if there's some great power that keeps the players from bending, folding, and mutilating them. I don't buy it. Today's gamers are not fundamentally different from the grognards. In the long run, they play the way they want to, in the way that is fun for them. Slant in the books ultimately means nothing. Once they understand them, people will use the tools in their hands as they see fit.</p><p></p><p>I mean, really, hair dryers don't have warning labels on them because people read the directions and only use the thing as the author intended, hm? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 1867905, member: 177"] I thought long and hard on this over the past day or so. And it seems to me that it is based upon the assumption that the majority of gamers are... well, sheep. Stupid sheep, led by the nose. They tend to follow what is written, and not think for themselves. They are somehow victims of manipulation beyond which they cannot see. I'm sorry, but my experience with gamers is exactly the opposite, and I think the history of the game backs me up. RPG started with Gygax and friends sitting down and asking "Can we do something else with this?" Since then folks have been bending, folding, and mutilating the rules to their own pleasure. We have 3e primarily [i]because[/i] of all the experimentation and wandering far afield by the players. But suddenly, now, exactly how the rules are written is a big deal. As if there's some great power that keeps the players from bending, folding, and mutilating them. I don't buy it. Today's gamers are not fundamentally different from the grognards. In the long run, they play the way they want to, in the way that is fun for them. Slant in the books ultimately means nothing. Once they understand them, people will use the tools in their hands as they see fit. I mean, really, hair dryers don't have warning labels on them because people read the directions and only use the thing as the author intended, hm? :) [/QUOTE]
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