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Is It Impossible To Benefit From 'One With Shadows'?
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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 6909925" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>From my point of view, you read the ability wrongly and perfectly at the same time.</p><p></p><p>One with shadow makes you invisible. But you can't move and taking any actions negates it. Pretty weak isn't it?</p><p></p><p>But...</p><p>From the ennemy's perspective, you went invisible. Most invisibility powers let you move as you want. Where are you now? No need to hide. You're invisible.</p><p>How did you do it? Remember that not all warlocks take that power. Invisibility is still something common enough that it will be assumed to be the standard invisibility many know or have heard about.</p><p>From your ennemy's perspective you might have: Used an item activation? A spell of somekind? Maybe you used some potion he has not seen? Maybe you just teleported?</p><p></p><p>The ennemy will try to find you. In a combat situation, there is a lot of noise comming from different events around and in the combat zone. No one fights for his life silently. That means that going stealthy while invisible is easy and everyone knows that. </p><p></p><p>Should your ennemy assume that you are locked into place? Of course not. He will try to find you and will assume you moved somewhere else in the mean time. It is highly probable that the ennemy will try to assume where you would go and go try to find you there. An invisible ennemy is never a good thing to have and most people will assume, rightly so, that the invisible one moved into a more advantageous position.</p><p></p><p>All that to say: You DM should not play his monster/npcs with the knowledge that you are a warlock and that you used that hability. Invisibility is in the warlock's spell list after all and in all arcane spell casters. Most monsters/npcs won't be able to tell a mage from a sorcerer from a warlock.</p><p></p><p>But you used eldritch blast! The monster saw you. So now he knows that you are a warlock.</p><p>Welcome to my world where the bard that took eldritch blast as magic initiate...</p><p>Even a knowledgable wizard won't assume that much.</p><p></p><p>In conclusion. No that hability is not useless. It can be used and it works as intended. A deception from a class very adept at deception.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 6909925, member: 6855114"] From my point of view, you read the ability wrongly and perfectly at the same time. One with shadow makes you invisible. But you can't move and taking any actions negates it. Pretty weak isn't it? But... From the ennemy's perspective, you went invisible. Most invisibility powers let you move as you want. Where are you now? No need to hide. You're invisible. How did you do it? Remember that not all warlocks take that power. Invisibility is still something common enough that it will be assumed to be the standard invisibility many know or have heard about. From your ennemy's perspective you might have: Used an item activation? A spell of somekind? Maybe you used some potion he has not seen? Maybe you just teleported? The ennemy will try to find you. In a combat situation, there is a lot of noise comming from different events around and in the combat zone. No one fights for his life silently. That means that going stealthy while invisible is easy and everyone knows that. Should your ennemy assume that you are locked into place? Of course not. He will try to find you and will assume you moved somewhere else in the mean time. It is highly probable that the ennemy will try to assume where you would go and go try to find you there. An invisible ennemy is never a good thing to have and most people will assume, rightly so, that the invisible one moved into a more advantageous position. All that to say: You DM should not play his monster/npcs with the knowledge that you are a warlock and that you used that hability. Invisibility is in the warlock's spell list after all and in all arcane spell casters. Most monsters/npcs won't be able to tell a mage from a sorcerer from a warlock. But you used eldritch blast! The monster saw you. So now he knows that you are a warlock. Welcome to my world where the bard that took eldritch blast as magic initiate... Even a knowledgable wizard won't assume that much. In conclusion. No that hability is not useless. It can be used and it works as intended. A deception from a class very adept at deception. [/QUOTE]
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