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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Prism" data-source="post: 6910548" data-attributes="member: 9501">I'm still a bit unsure why you would want to hide during combat using this ability anyway. Hiding when invisible is surely used when moving not when stationary. You could also argue that a hide check with its required action is not needed. Dexterity (stealth) during your move action (even though you don't move) or during the actual use of this ability is enough. Hiding isn't the only way to be quiet.e.g warlock steps into the shadows and becomes invisible. The player then states they are attempted to be quite. DM asks for a stealth check. Creatures who don't have a passive perception higher than this check are not entirely sure where the warlock now is. Creatures that do can in some way detect/hear the warlock.Out of combat its all a non issue since you don't use actions anyway to control the timing of things.</blockquote>