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Is it just me or do any of you think Speed Factor on weapons should be brought back?
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<blockquote data-quote="reiella" data-source="post: 1433781" data-attributes="member: 160"><p>Wee finished adjusting the spreadsheet for my little needs. Would it be ok if I posted it for others to see Darklone?</p><p></p><p>[ Edit/Add Fun Summary ]</p><p>Without accounting for the 20 'all-hit' (tilts in advantage of the slower weapon, but not significantly), the Greatsword/Dagger conflict appears to favor the dagger at more extreme ACs, and in order to balance a weapon speed iterative attack, it is necessary to (At the least) reduce damage of the faster weapons.</p><p></p><p>Interestingly enough, if you account for criticals, I think a scythe (1d10/x4/slow) or greataxe (2d6/x3/slow) may prove a better 'slow' weapon than the Greatsword (2d6/19-20/x2).</p><p></p><p>Similiarity in damage output tends to occur around AC 47 for BAB 20/ Max Itr 4/D&D weapon stats/Normal Progression, with an damage of roughly 2.3 (dagger) and 3.6 (greatsword) per round. At BAB 20/Max Itr4/1d3 dagger damage/Dagger4, Greatsword6 delays, at AC 47, 2.2 for dagger 3.6 for greatsword. The trouble is in that, the curves approach each other (10 pt variance in damage starts at AC 28, and reaches 5 pt variance at AC 33).</p><p></p><p>The Greatsword does maintain a steady lead in both situations, but, as mentioned, the dagger warrior will have the advantage of a free hand...</p><p></p><p>// Add - Yet Again</p><p>Hmm, another interesting observation may be again the Trident or Broad sword (from EQ<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />H) as those are the only two one-handed 'slow' weapons. I'd slant towards the broad sword as it lacks any extra spiffy quirks (1d10/x2/slow), although the trident does appear to be superior to the broad sword in every way (same stats, but more perks).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reiella, post: 1433781, member: 160"] Wee finished adjusting the spreadsheet for my little needs. Would it be ok if I posted it for others to see Darklone? [ Edit/Add Fun Summary ] Without accounting for the 20 'all-hit' (tilts in advantage of the slower weapon, but not significantly), the Greatsword/Dagger conflict appears to favor the dagger at more extreme ACs, and in order to balance a weapon speed iterative attack, it is necessary to (At the least) reduce damage of the faster weapons. Interestingly enough, if you account for criticals, I think a scythe (1d10/x4/slow) or greataxe (2d6/x3/slow) may prove a better 'slow' weapon than the Greatsword (2d6/19-20/x2). Similiarity in damage output tends to occur around AC 47 for BAB 20/ Max Itr 4/D&D weapon stats/Normal Progression, with an damage of roughly 2.3 (dagger) and 3.6 (greatsword) per round. At BAB 20/Max Itr4/1d3 dagger damage/Dagger4, Greatsword6 delays, at AC 47, 2.2 for dagger 3.6 for greatsword. The trouble is in that, the curves approach each other (10 pt variance in damage starts at AC 28, and reaches 5 pt variance at AC 33). The Greatsword does maintain a steady lead in both situations, but, as mentioned, the dagger warrior will have the advantage of a free hand... // Add - Yet Again Hmm, another interesting observation may be again the Trident or Broad sword (from EQ:PH) as those are the only two one-handed 'slow' weapons. I'd slant towards the broad sword as it lacks any extra spiffy quirks (1d10/x2/slow), although the trident does appear to be superior to the broad sword in every way (same stats, but more perks). [/QUOTE]
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