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<blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 943223" data-attributes="member: 4779"><p>I hold firm that there is a more vocal majority of people who don't like the new trilogy so far. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>I don't put a ton of stock in the Hugo awards and they are hardly ever brought up when judging how good or bad a movie is. I don't say this to refute your point, only to say that a cross-section of 1500 fans doesn't do a whole lot for me.</p><p>Oh, no one is saying that. There is no way Phantom Menace could have had the same impact, no movie has or probably ever will again. Unfair comparison, IMO. Doesn't matter if it will be on a top 100 list 10 years from now. It will still be talked about 50 years from now while a good amount of the movies that came out about the same time will be almost forgotten. No, it wasn't the best Star Wars film or even in the top 3 of 5 at this point. It had an impossible task of following up the most successful movie trilogy of all time, something that will probably never happen again. I do believe the newer films will stand the test of time better than most think. It's too close to their release to really tell, anyway.</p><p>There are also a healthy amount of folks who didn't like LotR at all. It had one of the best writers in history so it should have been at the very least good. However, I do agree with you about the sense of wonder. Fellowship was a great movie in that sense. Not so much with TTT, but still a solid film. I don't like to compare Star Wars and LotR because while there are similarities they are 2 different beasts. If we want to compare trilogies of like importance and quality we'll have to wait until RotK and then we can compare it to the original Star Wars trilogy.</p><p></p><p>There I go again, talking about movies when movies aren't really my problem these days. It's television, dang it! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> There look to be a ton of really good feature films on the way. Nolan's Batman, last LotR, other comic book properties. I guess that the comic-book film is really the salvation for the hard core sci-fi fan at this point since there seems to be a generally high amount of quality there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Crichton, post: 943223, member: 4779"] I hold firm that there is a more vocal majority of people who don't like the new trilogy so far. ;) I don't put a ton of stock in the Hugo awards and they are hardly ever brought up when judging how good or bad a movie is. I don't say this to refute your point, only to say that a cross-section of 1500 fans doesn't do a whole lot for me. Oh, no one is saying that. There is no way Phantom Menace could have had the same impact, no movie has or probably ever will again. Unfair comparison, IMO. Doesn't matter if it will be on a top 100 list 10 years from now. It will still be talked about 50 years from now while a good amount of the movies that came out about the same time will be almost forgotten. No, it wasn't the best Star Wars film or even in the top 3 of 5 at this point. It had an impossible task of following up the most successful movie trilogy of all time, something that will probably never happen again. I do believe the newer films will stand the test of time better than most think. It's too close to their release to really tell, anyway. There are also a healthy amount of folks who didn't like LotR at all. It had one of the best writers in history so it should have been at the very least good. However, I do agree with you about the sense of wonder. Fellowship was a great movie in that sense. Not so much with TTT, but still a solid film. I don't like to compare Star Wars and LotR because while there are similarities they are 2 different beasts. If we want to compare trilogies of like importance and quality we'll have to wait until RotK and then we can compare it to the original Star Wars trilogy. There I go again, talking about movies when movies aren't really my problem these days. It's television, dang it! :) There look to be a ton of really good feature films on the way. Nolan's Batman, last LotR, other comic book properties. I guess that the comic-book film is really the salvation for the hard core sci-fi fan at this point since there seems to be a generally high amount of quality there. [/QUOTE]
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