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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Krensky" data-source="post: 4818883" data-attributes="member: 30936">And yet the DM's actions work against this. This isn't like touching a hot stove, which is what the DM is emulating. The player doesn't get burned (in a literal sense) because they forgot an effect. It's like math when someone forgets a step in a proof, leading to a subtlely wrong answer, without having the correct answer to compare it to. Granted, in the math example a person would learn more from finding the error on their own, but there's no feedback in the eample here.Or, put another way, if the player doesn't know they forgot something or made a mistake, how can they ever learn? The only way that they could possibly learn under this DM's rules is if he keeps detailed notes and has an After Action Review after every session, and that requires a major buy in from the PCs (ie, that their characters and prefromances will be brutally examined and critiqued, even if they won).</blockquote>