Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Is it OK to distribute others' OGC for free?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1823203" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Personally, I think skinnydwarf summarized some of the most relevant information, though I certainly am receptive to philreed's point.</p><p></p><p>Now, clueless conniving kazaa theives notwithstanding (and let's be honest, that guy probably felt the same way about any product, not just phil's PDFs, and certainly not just the OGC parts), I think philreed's analysis is overly generous to the number of lost sales that WotC or Green Ronin would experience versus perhaps a PDF-only release.</p><p></p><p>First off, print publishing has not been displaced by PDFs. Most people I know consider PDFs to be a 'nice-to-have', but not a replacement for a published work. I can't take a PDF on the train to work or a dozen other places where a computer is problematic. Further, the layout of a printed work is both relevant and useful to me, something an OGC reprint won't offer. Take a good look at Unearthed Arcana or any WotC work, really. It's visually appealing and has lots of quality artwork...something an OGC releasal isn't likely to offer. It's also from WotC, which gives it a veneer of authenticity that, say Malhavoc, isn't going to have. </p><p></p><p>I think that the core issue, "is it OK to distribute others' OGC for free?" suffers from vague wordage. Clearly, it's legal. The issue of lost sales seems, to me, an empty argument. The OGC wasn't created to develop intellectual freedom, or even as a favor to the 3rd party publishers. It wasn't meant to help them, per se, so much as encourage them to create content for D&D, to help sell WotC's product. It was a clever idea that benefits players, 3rd party publishers and most importantly, WotC. It's no accident that the one company that produced virtually no OGC material for years was WotC itself. WotC wants people to provide for them....that's part of the business model. Then they can pick and choose and bring the bright ideas back in house...for no money. </p><p></p><p>OGC has tons of benefits that don't boil down to cold hard cash, of course, and I don't mean to imply that Ryan Dancey and WotC created it without considering the ways that it would benefit the hobby. In point of fact, I think they approached it from that angle, looking for a way to make a business model around it. But the whole idea of the OGC is to allow for material to be picked at, by WotC if no one else. Note that Unearthed Arcana has material yanked directly from Green Ronin and others, for example. That's the payoff, right there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1823203, member: 151"] Personally, I think skinnydwarf summarized some of the most relevant information, though I certainly am receptive to philreed's point. Now, clueless conniving kazaa theives notwithstanding (and let's be honest, that guy probably felt the same way about any product, not just phil's PDFs, and certainly not just the OGC parts), I think philreed's analysis is overly generous to the number of lost sales that WotC or Green Ronin would experience versus perhaps a PDF-only release. First off, print publishing has not been displaced by PDFs. Most people I know consider PDFs to be a 'nice-to-have', but not a replacement for a published work. I can't take a PDF on the train to work or a dozen other places where a computer is problematic. Further, the layout of a printed work is both relevant and useful to me, something an OGC reprint won't offer. Take a good look at Unearthed Arcana or any WotC work, really. It's visually appealing and has lots of quality artwork...something an OGC releasal isn't likely to offer. It's also from WotC, which gives it a veneer of authenticity that, say Malhavoc, isn't going to have. I think that the core issue, "is it OK to distribute others' OGC for free?" suffers from vague wordage. Clearly, it's legal. The issue of lost sales seems, to me, an empty argument. The OGC wasn't created to develop intellectual freedom, or even as a favor to the 3rd party publishers. It wasn't meant to help them, per se, so much as encourage them to create content for D&D, to help sell WotC's product. It was a clever idea that benefits players, 3rd party publishers and most importantly, WotC. It's no accident that the one company that produced virtually no OGC material for years was WotC itself. WotC wants people to provide for them....that's part of the business model. Then they can pick and choose and bring the bright ideas back in house...for no money. OGC has tons of benefits that don't boil down to cold hard cash, of course, and I don't mean to imply that Ryan Dancey and WotC created it without considering the ways that it would benefit the hobby. In point of fact, I think they approached it from that angle, looking for a way to make a business model around it. But the whole idea of the OGC is to allow for material to be picked at, by WotC if no one else. Note that Unearthed Arcana has material yanked directly from Green Ronin and others, for example. That's the payoff, right there. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Is it OK to distribute others' OGC for free?
Top