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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pennywiz" data-source="post: 1824711" data-attributes="member: 1488">"deserve"?"made your bed and should lie in it"?Who are you quoting?  I don't think anyone said "deserve" in the way you are saying it, and it was Ranger REG who put forth the "bed" thing, which Cergorach reluctantly agreed applied to everyone, not just one side or another who might wish to portray themselves as martyrs in a struggle that has more than simple legal implications (if a line is truly being drawn).  The OGL has provisions for releasing additional OGC, or retaining material as your own, and has additional provisions for how to deal with material that is based on previous OGC.  It's not unclear.Your spinning leaves a lot to be desired.  You might be trying to convince yourself that there is an ethical right or wrong in this, but you won't sway anyone else with smoke and mirrors.  Plenty enough people are quite happy to use the license(s) as written, without your biased ethical restrictions.  You can quit trying to attach some sort of ethical stigma to it now.If someone creates totally new material (that is in no way derived from other OGC) then there are mechanisms within the licensing to retain that material for their own private use AND they can take the material they retain for their own private use and license it out to only those they wish to allow accesss to it if that is their intention (as some seem to believe, as far as some sort of other-publishers-only type of deal).Someone wants to release totally new material?  Good for them.  It's their call.  Once it is released they have no ability to restrict it's proper legal use under the terms of the license.  In fact, even suggesting that there is some ethical violation of contributed OGC, by the actual contributor, might be considered a violation of the license (OGL section 2 "No other terms or conditions may be applied to any Open Game Content distributed using this License.")  How's that for a literal reading of the contract?Plenty of other companies understand the license(s) and how to restrict material not required to be OGC, such as Green Ronin with the M&M link material.  It's very clear how the licensing that governs OGC and the d20 trademark work, and if someone doesn't understand them then they should retain an attorney to assist them in those matters.  Someone attempting to create a general feeling of sympathy within the community to shore up their lack of understanding of how to properly use the license(s) as they exist isn't going to work.</blockquote>

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