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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1833895" data-attributes="member: 151">I'm not so sure.&nbsp;&nbsp; System familiarity keeps gamers near and dear to d20, which leads them back to WotC, sooner or later.&nbsp; Case in point: I have almost every Mutants and Masterminds book available.&nbsp; I've played superhero games before (I had one GURPS Supers game run 8 years), but it was M&amp;M's use of the OGL that brought me to it (and its near universally good reviews).&nbsp; But part of the issue has to be: when we say Malhavoc or Green Ronin benefits more, what do we mean?&nbsp; I think you're speaking to an intellectual/property right issue, whereas I'm discussing a fiscal approach.&nbsp; Also, let's not forget that the d20 license, the OGL and the D&amp;D logo are three separate entities that have different rules, and their interaction can be convoluted.&nbsp; Mutants and Masterminds and Blue Rose use variants of the d20 system through the OGL.&nbsp; They are not licensed for d20, and can't present the logo, but they can and do identify their core ruleset as being created from the d20 system, as per the OGL.&nbsp; M&amp;M is partly OGC, as we can see with their damage system appearing in UA.&nbsp; Freeport is d20, and claims so on it's covers.&nbsp; Kenzer, meanwhile, has the right to claim that Kalamar IS D&amp;D, because they paid for the right to do so.&nbsp; The more ways that d20 and D&amp;D are tied together, the less likely someone is going to leave D&amp;D for another system...hence WotC benefits in the short AND long runs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1833895, member: 151"] I'm not so sure. System familiarity keeps gamers near and dear to d20, which leads them back to WotC, sooner or later. Case in point: I have almost every Mutants and Masterminds book available. I've played superhero games before (I had one GURPS Supers game run 8 years), but it was M&M's use of the OGL that brought me to it (and its near universally good reviews). But part of the issue has to be: when we say Malhavoc or Green Ronin benefits more, what do we mean? I think you're speaking to an intellectual/property right issue, whereas I'm discussing a fiscal approach. Also, let's not forget that the d20 license, the OGL and the D&D logo are three separate entities that have different rules, and their interaction can be convoluted. Mutants and Masterminds and Blue Rose use variants of the d20 system through the OGL. They are not licensed for d20, and can't present the logo, but they can and do identify their core ruleset as being created from the d20 system, as per the OGL. M&M is partly OGC, as we can see with their damage system appearing in UA. Freeport is d20, and claims so on it's covers. Kenzer, meanwhile, has the right to claim that Kalamar IS D&D, because they paid for the right to do so. The more ways that d20 and D&D are tied together, the less likely someone is going to leave D&D for another system...hence WotC benefits in the short AND long runs. [/QUOTE]

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