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Is it possible for a charmed creature to attack its charmer?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3857535" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Let's say the character discovered his own brother eating the brains of innocent people.</p><p></p><p>How would you describe the character's attitude to the brother in the course of bringing him to justice - Hostile, Unfriendly, Indifferent, Friendly, or Helpful?</p><p></p><p>As an analogy - let's say there's a person who is Friendly to you. You say to them "I'm not your friend. You have no friends. You're a loser, and nobody likes you."</p><p></p><p>For the average person, this would adversely affect their attitude - it might make them Unfriendly towards you. If the person is Friendly towards you because of a Charm spell making them that way, though, is it possible for that statement to alter their attitude to Unfriendly? Or does the Charm cause them to remain friendly, despite the offence you may cause? (I knew a guy like this. He was a dick, but he had an ego so strong that he simply couldn't wrap his head around the idea that people didn't like him. If someone said something like the above to him (and people did), then they were <em>obviously having a laugh</em>, because he knew they were, of course, his friends.)</p><p></p><p>The description of the Paladin character sounds to me like someone who might like you, but that won't prevent him going from Friendly to Hostile if your actions warrant it. In the case of the mind flayer, the actions might be such that he would normally shift from Friendly to Hostile... but he is mentally incapable of making that shift while under the influence of the Charm.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3857535, member: 1656"] Let's say the character discovered his own brother eating the brains of innocent people. How would you describe the character's attitude to the brother in the course of bringing him to justice - Hostile, Unfriendly, Indifferent, Friendly, or Helpful? As an analogy - let's say there's a person who is Friendly to you. You say to them "I'm not your friend. You have no friends. You're a loser, and nobody likes you." For the average person, this would adversely affect their attitude - it might make them Unfriendly towards you. If the person is Friendly towards you because of a Charm spell making them that way, though, is it possible for that statement to alter their attitude to Unfriendly? Or does the Charm cause them to remain friendly, despite the offence you may cause? (I knew a guy like this. He was a dick, but he had an ego so strong that he simply couldn't wrap his head around the idea that people didn't like him. If someone said something like the above to him (and people did), then they were [i]obviously having a laugh[/i], because he knew they were, of course, his friends.) The description of the Paladin character sounds to me like someone who might like you, but that won't prevent him going from Friendly to Hostile if your actions warrant it. In the case of the mind flayer, the actions might be such that he would normally shift from Friendly to Hostile... but he is mentally incapable of making that shift while under the influence of the Charm. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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