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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9648895" data-attributes="member: 58172">Even so, the ability traditions evolve.1e experimented with making Comeliness a seventh ability. Even 5e, in the 2014 DMs Guide experimented with making Sanity and Honor a seventh or eighth ability.These particular additions feel redundant.Sanity = WisdomHonor ≈ Charisma (History) (where History relates to the values of a culture)Comeliness is more like a Charisma (Performance) check for attitude and dressing well, and perhaps even a Constitution (Performance) check for keeping fit. Superhuman beauty works better as a background feat.If instead the 2014 DMs Guide split off Athletics and Perception as separate abilities, that might have been helpful for gameplay.Perhaps all abilities suffer from being too generalized in some cases but too specific in other cases, and this inconsistency is what makes the ability traditions perplexing.1e was responsible for the original flaw of separating balance from the athleticism of Strength. Despite Strength being generally agile and accurate to aim swords, it was quantified in an extremely specific stationary way according the Lifting skill, namely military press exercise equipment.There was a time when Perception didnt formally exist, then 3e invented it. 3e should have given Perception to Intelligence since Wisdom already had the Will save.The D&D abilities have been evolving − changing − since the origin of D&D and continue to shift fluidly.</blockquote>

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