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Is it possible to have a Chaotic society?
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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 1170945" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>Well, even after advised to the indelicate meaning and inappropriateness of the use "absolute", you press on in using it in what appears to be a fault manner. I cannot really communicate with you when the term as you use it seems way too imprecise to handle the delicacies of the situation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, not given. I have already established that it is not open to any interpretation within the mileu. You keep pressing this point, but it is incorrect.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The spell is targeting alignment, which is a non-subjective agent evaluation under the realist moral theory embodied by the alignment system. It is not act evaluation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since your question is riddled with faulty premises, I cannot credibly answer.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>DM call. But under the system as it exists, this character is either chaotic, or he is not. He may be chaotic with neutral tendencies or neutral with chaotic tendencies. That is for the DM to decide. There is no fuzziness and you seem to want to attribute to it though; the alignment system ignores the "tendencies" part for such purposes.</p><p></p><p>If you really want to model this in-between state, that would be your house rule. (Or you could use Malhavoc's Book of Hallowed Might, which has such a system, providing for half damage in borderline conditions)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Irrelevant. Alignment is not subjective. That you would even ask such a question reveals what I beleive the fundamental reason that you seem to have with alignment: you have an inherently relativist worldview and cannot put it aside for the sake of the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 1170945, member: 172"] Well, even after advised to the indelicate meaning and inappropriateness of the use "absolute", you press on in using it in what appears to be a fault manner. I cannot really communicate with you when the term as you use it seems way too imprecise to handle the delicacies of the situation. Okay. No, not given. I have already established that it is not open to any interpretation within the mileu. You keep pressing this point, but it is incorrect. The spell is targeting alignment, which is a non-subjective agent evaluation under the realist moral theory embodied by the alignment system. It is not act evaluation. Since your question is riddled with faulty premises, I cannot credibly answer. DM call. But under the system as it exists, this character is either chaotic, or he is not. He may be chaotic with neutral tendencies or neutral with chaotic tendencies. That is for the DM to decide. There is no fuzziness and you seem to want to attribute to it though; the alignment system ignores the "tendencies" part for such purposes. If you really want to model this in-between state, that would be your house rule. (Or you could use Malhavoc's Book of Hallowed Might, which has such a system, providing for half damage in borderline conditions) Irrelevant. Alignment is not subjective. That you would even ask such a question reveals what I beleive the fundamental reason that you seem to have with alignment: you have an inherently relativist worldview and cannot put it aside for the sake of the game. [/QUOTE]
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