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<blockquote data-quote="RFisher" data-source="post: 3201554" data-attributes="member: 3608">That just isn't true. Indeed, I don't think any of the balance problems I mentioned happened in D&amp;D. e.g. Gurps 3e race creation rules were full of balance pitfalls. The psionics in the basic set were pretty clearly unbalancing, though that was less of a problem. It just meant that if you allowed psionics you should expect them to dominate tho game unless you took measures to mitigate that.Wait--two-weapon fighting. That's never been balanced well in any edition of D&amp;D I've played (that had rules for two-weapon fighting). (&amp; I am not interested in discussing that opinion--I've done it to death.) Unless you want two-weapon fighting to be unbalanced.If you mean acheiving perfect balance in all things, I can agree, but I think that's a strawman. I've met vanishingly few people who thought such was possible. (&amp; I'm pretty sure that thought gets squashed after enough trying.) Indeed, we want certain imbalances. A 20th level fighter shouldn't be balanced against a 1st level fighter. An Ars Magica Magus is intentionally not balanced against grogs.If you mean that there are never balance problems, I have to disagree based on experience.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RFisher, post: 3201554, member: 3608"] That just isn't true. Indeed, I don't think any of the balance problems I mentioned happened in D&D. e.g. Gurps 3e race creation rules were [i]full[/i] of balance pitfalls. The psionics in the basic set were pretty clearly unbalancing, though that was less of a problem. It just meant that if you allowed psionics you should expect them to dominate tho game unless you took measures to mitigate that. Wait--two-weapon fighting. That's never been balanced well in any edition of D&D I've played (that had rules for two-weapon fighting). (& I am [i]not[/i] interested in discussing that opinion--I've done it to death.) Unless you [i]want[/i] two-weapon fighting to be unbalanced. If you mean acheiving perfect balance in all things, I can agree, but I think that's a strawman. I've met vanishingly few people who thought such was possible. (& I'm pretty sure that thought gets squashed after enough trying.) Indeed, we [i]want[/i] certain imbalances. A 20th level fighter shouldn't be balanced against a 1st level fighter. An [i]Ars Magica[/i] Magus is intentionally not balanced against grogs. If you mean that there are never balance problems, I have to disagree based on experience. [/QUOTE]

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