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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Valiant" data-source="post: 3798662" data-attributes="member: 54792">Geron wrote -What Crothian describes are people that long for the "same (A)D&D" they experienced as kids. And that simply won't come back anymore. Nobody is able to tune out 20 or 30 years of adult life AND roleplaying experience.-Geron the same thing can be said for anything.  I will never experiance listening to Rush after 20+ years the same way, I'll also never experiance playing Risk or Chess the same way after30+ years either (not just my age, but my life experiance, my knowledge of the game etc. have all changed me) but So what?  I think people that still play AD&D continue to experiance something similar to what they experianced as kids, or they wouldn't still be playing (even if they enjoy other points as well, the core reasons remain the same).  Some people do loose their imaginations, grow out of AD&D but so what, the same thing goes for alot of stuff.   The fact of the matter is, nobody can go back and experiance anything for the first time. But that doesn't mean what we remember from the first time (or from a time period) wasn't the result of rules.  The original poster was postulating wether the present forms of D&D (and the one in the works) are D&D?  You and Croathan seem to believe what the poster experianced as a child had more to do with his embelishments and the freshness of his experiance, and not a better rules set (for him).  But I disagree, I suggest it is from a better rules set (for him).  If he tried it again, he'd likely discover that himself.  As for truth, sure people see (and experiance) things differently.  That doesn't mean  the thing they observe don't exist outside of their experiance (perhaps recordable in a more true form, such as a camera).   As for liking Mozart, not everyones background or education increases in classical music, and yet some people still like it for the exact same reasons they did at 17, age sometimes has little or nothing to do with why you like something.  Infact, finding out the "rules" to classical music (in music appreciation class etc.) often turns people away from classical music (once consciously aware of just how mathematical and repetitive it is it sometimes looses its magic). Bottom line, AD&D is a game with a rule book, just like any other game, following the rules will result in a similar experiance between different people (given the age and level of experiance) that was my point.</blockquote>

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