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<blockquote data-quote="cougent" data-source="post: 3799952" data-attributes="member: 48665"><p>So, were you one the dozen or so people who actually liked "NEW Coke"? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> After all, it had the same name on the package so it must have been the same thing, right?</p><p></p><p>Not trying to pick a fight here, but can you elaborate more on your point #2, because as I read it as is, you seem to be contradicting yourself. Are you saying the reverse engineered games *do* resemble D&D more than later versions of D&D, or am I reading it wrong? I don't think that was what you wanted to say was it? I may just be interpreting it that way because that is sort of how I feel, so if I am reading my bias into your words I apologize.</p><p></p><p>I do fully concede that the name carries much weight, and will just by its presence guarantee many sales, but I flinch when I see people saying that it is the "best" game just because of those sales numbers. I think the very existence and prosperity of some 3rd party publishers who do not have the luxury of the name or the marketing budget of Hasbro to back them up suggests that there are alternatives that are at least as good, if not better. Further if those games are reverse engineered clones of something that *once* bore the logo, then perhaps those are the true legacy of the game and not something alien that just bought the logo and slapped it on something totally new. However, this is a purely esoteric argument now. 4E is a new game and it will win me on its merits or loose me on its flaws, which is true of any other new game I consider today. Names no longer matter, FUN matters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cougent, post: 3799952, member: 48665"] So, were you one the dozen or so people who actually liked "NEW Coke"? :) After all, it had the same name on the package so it must have been the same thing, right? Not trying to pick a fight here, but can you elaborate more on your point #2, because as I read it as is, you seem to be contradicting yourself. Are you saying the reverse engineered games *do* resemble D&D more than later versions of D&D, or am I reading it wrong? I don't think that was what you wanted to say was it? I may just be interpreting it that way because that is sort of how I feel, so if I am reading my bias into your words I apologize. I do fully concede that the name carries much weight, and will just by its presence guarantee many sales, but I flinch when I see people saying that it is the "best" game just because of those sales numbers. I think the very existence and prosperity of some 3rd party publishers who do not have the luxury of the name or the marketing budget of Hasbro to back them up suggests that there are alternatives that are at least as good, if not better. Further if those games are reverse engineered clones of something that *once* bore the logo, then perhaps those are the true legacy of the game and not something alien that just bought the logo and slapped it on something totally new. However, this is a purely esoteric argument now. 4E is a new game and it will win me on its merits or loose me on its flaws, which is true of any other new game I consider today. Names no longer matter, FUN matters. [/QUOTE]
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