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Message: <blockquote data-quote="John Quixote" data-source="post: 5417884" data-attributes="member: 694">Well, anybody who imagines that 4e will stay evergreen and just get revised via online updates has their head in the clouds.  Of course there will be a 5e; it's just a matter of time.What matters is whether 5e will be anything like the marketing miracle that 3e was.  3e brought back droves of lapsed gamers who played 1e but didn't like 2e, and gamers who had migrated to WoD or GURPS or had just given up on role-playing altogether; and it single-handedly created the 3rd party market with the OGL.  At this point, only a 5e with some kind of open license can do the impossible and reunite the fractured base of 4e, PF, and OSR players.Personally, I await with righteous amusement the day when the WotC designers finally come forward with their pitch for 5e, because they will be obliged to point out all of 4e's flaws, explain why 4e suddenly sucks now (but it really sucked all along, you just didn't know it if you were having fun playing it), and how 5e will fix all of your problems (which you may or may not have known you had).3e dissed 2e with its "back to the dungeon" campaign.4e dissed 3e with its "10 minutes of fun packed into 4 hours of play" meme.5e?  I predict that it will have something to do with dialing back the hour-long battles and dissociated mechanics.  At least, it had better if WotC wants to reunite the fanbase.</blockquote>