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<blockquote data-quote="DM Howard" data-source="post: 5419096" data-attributes="member: 87131">I'll set this down coming from a group that started with the end of second edition (The black starter box with the red dragon on it.).&nbsp; My friend and I loved playing 2nd edition and we played it by ourselves until 3rd edition came out.&nbsp; We made the switch and we didn't find anything to be overly displeased about and we continued on playing all the way until 4E was released and then we made the switch to that.&nbsp; We didn't feel like we HAD to move to 4E but since it was the new edition we thought we should go for it.&nbsp; so we get the books and we like it for a time and all is well.&nbsp; Eventually we all are sitting around and voice this disappointment over 4E.&nbsp; Not a &quot;I hate 4E RAWR!!!1!&quot; kind of disappointment, but just the feel that something has been lost during the transition.We've been playing a 4E campaign and we enjoy it well enough, but we also play Dark Heresy, Traveler and Pathfinder as well.&nbsp; I guess what I'm trying to get at is that (for my group) 4E, Dungeons and Dragons in its current state is not the be all and end all of RPGs for my group like it used to be.&nbsp; Do I think a new edition, a 5E is needed?&nbsp; Yes, but I don't think 4E is bad, I just think the system doesn't cater to as many different play-styles and groups as older editions have.&nbsp; We love 4E, but it isn't all we play anymore and I'm not sure why exactly.&nbsp; I think if there are going to announce a 5E it would be in a year or so not much sooner as they still need to see the effects of 4E.&nbsp; Sorry for the wandering rant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DM Howard, post: 5419096, member: 87131"] I'll set this down coming from a group that started with the end of second edition (The black starter box with the red dragon on it.). My friend and I loved playing 2nd edition and we played it by ourselves until 3rd edition came out. We made the switch and we didn't find anything to be overly displeased about and we continued on playing all the way until 4E was released and then we made the switch to that. We didn't feel like we HAD to move to 4E but since it was the new edition we thought we should go for it. so we get the books and we like it for a time and all is well. Eventually we all are sitting around and voice this disappointment over 4E. Not a "I hate 4E RAWR!!!1!" kind of disappointment, but just the feel that something has been lost during the transition. We've been playing a 4E campaign and we enjoy it well enough, but we also play Dark Heresy, Traveler and Pathfinder as well. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that (for my group) 4E, Dungeons and Dragons in its current state is not the be all and end all of RPGs for my group like it used to be. Do I think a new edition, a 5E is needed? Yes, but I don't think 4E is bad, I just think the system doesn't cater to as many different play-styles and groups as older editions have. We love 4E, but it isn't all we play anymore and I'm not sure why exactly. I think if there are going to announce a 5E it would be in a year or so not much sooner as they still need to see the effects of 4E. Sorry for the wandering rant. [/QUOTE]

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