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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5421801" data-attributes="member: 22424">The thing is, though, that that's not actually true. While there's been some amount of sniping at 4e from 3e/PF fans, and a certain amount of sniping at 3e/PF by 4e fans, the bulk of the thread has actually been fairly measured discussion of the topic at hand, with what appears to be a strong majority from all sides saying &quot;not yet&quot; to 5e. (In fact, has there been any mod activity on this thread?)Just in case your post was aimed at mine from this morning (which could be read as &quot;OMG, 4e is becoming a CCG!&quot;), I hope you will accept that that is not my intention. While 4e is not my edition of choice (I stuck with 3.5e), there are a number of things about it that I really like, and it has also highlighted a number of genuine flaws with my preferred edition. I had actually had (have?) real hope that a good 5e might, eventually, come around and blow me away.Nor, by and large, do I have a problem with what WotC is doing with 4e. I thought Essentials was a very positive step, and although the new Character Builder was a disaster on release, the manner in which they've fixed it up has been extremely impressive.I do have a problem with the Fortune Cards. But that's a problem with one specific product, and not with 4e as a whole. My post from the morning reflects my fears of where that might lead with any new edition.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5421801, member: 22424"] The thing is, though, that that's not actually true. While there's been some amount of sniping at 4e from 3e/PF fans, and a certain amount of sniping at 3e/PF by 4e fans, the bulk of the thread has actually been fairly measured discussion of the topic at hand, with what appears to be a strong majority from all sides saying "not yet" to 5e. (In fact, has there been [I]any[/I] mod activity on this thread?) Just in case your post was aimed at mine from this morning (which could be read as "OMG, 4e is becoming a CCG!"), I hope you will accept that that is not my intention. While 4e is not my edition of choice (I stuck with 3.5e), there are a number of things about it that I really like, and it has also highlighted a number of genuine flaws with my preferred edition. I had actually had (have?) real hope that a good 5e might, eventually, come around and blow me away. Nor, by and large, do I have a problem with what WotC is doing with 4e. I thought Essentials was a very positive step, and although the new Character Builder was a disaster on release, the manner in which they've fixed it up has been extremely impressive. I [i]do[/i] have a problem with the Fortune Cards. But that's a problem with [I]one[/I] specific product, and [I]not[/I] with 4e as a whole. My post from the morning reflects my fears of where that might lead with any new edition. [/QUOTE]

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