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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5423862" data-attributes="member: 4348">Ah, I have heard some grumbilngs about Traveller.  I never got into the game to tell the truth.  Early on when I first looked at it, for some reason I thought it looked complicated (and this coming from a guy who plays SFB...none the less!) and never really tried it any further.  Later on with later editions...I just never got the interest.  Looks like I missed out on the oldest flame war out there (though there were some pretty ragged arguments occasionally over some wargames and their rule interpretations) that was really hot perhaps?Still haven't really looked at the new Traveller stuff either.  Perhaps I should try someday, but now (perhaps from those disagreements long ago) I get several different answers on which version to try and what supplements when I questions some Traveller gamers.Hmmmm....where to begin.  There's enough that I'm sort of at a loss.No alignmentsOnly use the D10Racial stats are differentFeats and skills...errr I mean talents are in some ways like feats IMO and are the same names as some skills of oldthe four class divisions do not exist anymore...no rolling up your starting career on the Ranger, Warrior, Rogue or Scholar lists, it's one big list nowAttributes increase in 5% increments instead of 10% (this was a biggie for me)you can invest more in skills to get skill masteryNo Dragon SlayerOnly using D10's obviously affect combat in a major way.Magic handles differentlyInsanity handles differentlyAnd a horde of other things.Hope that describes it all in really short summary.  I actually like WHFRP 2e, the changes into 3e were FAR more drastic (completely different game system....WHFRP 1e is probably more different than BECMI D&D or AD&D compared to 4e D&D if that says anything about WFRP 3e mechanics).This is off the top of my head, so hopefully I gave somewhat of an idea of the differences.Oh my gosh, now that was a hot flamewar when it started.  The changes to FR, I don't think I've ever seen a community so hopping mad.  I think there were more FR fans that were angry (higher percentage at least) with that change then the percentage of those upset about the change to 4e...or even the change from AD&D to 3e.  If it weren't for LFR I'd say WotC had made the FR just about extinct with that move...I used to play FR...I don't anymore.  That about covers that.  They're loss.Other than that I think I simply stay out of those arguments about FR overall.</blockquote>

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