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<blockquote data-quote="fumetti" data-source="post: 5431162" data-attributes="member: 6667461">I just don't get this conclusion.&nbsp; The proportion of combat-to-noncombat in 4E is VASTLY out of balance compared to earlier editions (esp. the further you go back).&nbsp; Even if you don't do a word/chart count, it is a simple mathematical fact...3E added feats and a complex skills system.On top of that, 4E added a powers system.2E and earlier did not come remotely close to those levels of rule-increase on combat.Furthermore, 4E significantly reduced its coverage of noncombat mechanics (wandering monsters, timekeeping, mapping, etc.)&nbsp;I don't see anyone saying &quot;restricted from.&quot;&nbsp; Only that the emphasis in RAW has changed.&nbsp; And at times this change in emphasis can guide, sometimes in a rather firm way, players towards a certain way of thinking.&nbsp; Just look at spell descriptions.&nbsp; A seasoned vet can interpret them for noncombat usage.&nbsp; But first time players?&nbsp; Probably not going to have that skill.&nbsp;Since he affirmed this in another post, I will just respond to it here...That statement would be false.&nbsp; 1E, 2E and BECMI had exponentially more stuff for noncombat than 4E.&nbsp; Where 4E just gives a minimal paragraph, other editions give pages or even entire hardback volumes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fumetti, post: 5431162, member: 6667461"] I just don't get this conclusion. The proportion of combat-to-noncombat in 4E is VASTLY out of balance compared to earlier editions (esp. the further you go back). Even if you don't do a word/chart count, it is a simple mathematical fact... 3E added feats and a complex skills system. On top of that, 4E added a powers system. 2E and earlier did not come remotely close to those levels of rule-increase on combat. Furthermore, 4E significantly reduced its coverage of noncombat mechanics (wandering monsters, timekeeping, mapping, etc.) I don't see anyone saying "restricted from." Only that the emphasis in RAW has changed. And at times this change in emphasis can guide, sometimes in a rather firm way, players towards a certain way of thinking. Just look at spell descriptions. A seasoned vet can interpret them for noncombat usage. But first time players? Probably not going to have that skill. Since he affirmed this in another post, I will just respond to it here... That statement would be false. 1E, 2E and BECMI had exponentially more stuff for noncombat than 4E. Where 4E just gives a minimal paragraph, other editions give pages or even entire hardback volumes. [/QUOTE]

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