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<blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 6026027" data-attributes="member: 6688277">Although I agree at-will/encounter is easier than Vancian it is certainly not the only deciding factor when it comes to newbies not playing Wizards. There is the Hit Point factor - they are squishy and since 5E is assuredly not 4E and appears to be following older schools of thought when generating hit points I still see us nudging newbies back towards melee classes.Now as for newbies, they will not make up the majority of the market share so why all this pandering and catering to newbie players is beyond me. Their primarily goal is to unite the player base - a united player base yields an increase in newbies. Appealing to newbies but leaving the player base divided yields far poorer results.I say go Vancian, as Remathillis said no reason to reinvent the wheel. And in the DMG or later in the PHB allow for those additional options as modules as per the OP.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sadras, post: 6026027, member: 6688277"] Although I agree at-will/encounter is easier than Vancian it is certainly not the only deciding factor when it comes to newbies not playing Wizards. There is the Hit Point factor - they are squishy and since 5E is assuredly not 4E and appears to be following older schools of thought when generating hit points I still see us nudging newbies back towards melee classes. Now as for newbies, they will not make up the majority of the market share so why all this pandering and catering to newbie players is beyond me. Their primarily goal is to unite the player base - a united player base yields an increase in newbies. Appealing to newbies but leaving the player base divided yields far poorer results. I say go Vancian, as Remathillis said no reason to reinvent the wheel. And in the DMG or later in the PHB allow for those additional options as modules as per the OP. [/QUOTE]

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