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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 2227628" data-attributes="member: 2205">That dpeneds on why you would not like one.&nbsp; I don't like D&amp;D as much because I don't like the &quot;Vancian magic&quot;, and reliance on a golf bag of special magical items, 3/4 of the classes including a spellcasting progression, and the specific implementation of most of the races.&nbsp; But those are all specific to D&amp;D, and certainly don't affect me when playing d20 Call of Cthulhu, or d20 Star Wars, or d20 Wheel of Time, or M&amp;M, or Blue Rose, or OGL Conan, or OGL Steampunk, etc.&nbsp; Those are all problems I have with D&amp;D but not with d20.I'm not horribly fond of hps and levels, although I don't hate them, and most of the time I don't bother with removing them.&nbsp; I'm not horribly fond either of the tactical miniatures combat game that's inherent to d20.&nbsp; Those are a little bit more trouble to pull out as fewer games have tried to, but those are problems that I have with d20 in almost all of its variants; D&amp;D included.So I can like D&amp;D and d20 for much the same reasons, but at the same time dislike one or the other for comletely different reasons.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 2227628, member: 2205"] That dpeneds on why you would not like one. I don't like D&D as much because I don't like the "Vancian magic", and reliance on a golf bag of special magical items, 3/4 of the classes including a spellcasting progression, and the specific implementation of most of the races. But those are all specific to D&D, and certainly don't affect me when playing d20 Call of Cthulhu, or d20 Star Wars, or d20 Wheel of Time, or M&M, or Blue Rose, or OGL Conan, or OGL Steampunk, etc. Those are all problems I have with D&D but not with d20. I'm not horribly fond of hps and levels, although I don't hate them, and most of the time I don't bother with removing them. I'm not horribly fond either of the tactical miniatures combat game that's inherent to d20. Those are a little bit more trouble to pull out as fewer games have tried to, but those are problems that I have with d20 in almost all of its variants; D&D included. So I can like D&D and d20 for much the same reasons, but at the same time dislike one or the other for comletely different reasons. ;) [/QUOTE]

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