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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 2829154" data-attributes="member: 22424">True. Sadly, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.Well, except that gaining information useful to complete his mission is profitting. And his use of torture, therefore, is profitting from the suffering of others.Recently, Jack shot a woman he knew to be innocent of wrongdoing in the leg, in an attempt to prize information out of her husband. That does not square up with a Good alignment.Mine, too. But, once you've taken them alive, disarmed them and tied them up, and done whatever else is deemed necessary to ensure they are no longer a threat, then the "self defence" argument does not apply. At which point, a Good character cannot simply kill them out of hand (although the administration of justice may require the same, depending on the context - killing a mass-murderer is a different consideration from killing a soldier who happens to be on the other side).That's debatable. However, you could ask "is murdering one person worse than murdering hundreds?" Presumably, the answer is "no", but it doesn't follow that the murder of one is not an evil act. The same applies to torture.That should really depend on the context. However, I've already posted about the Baatezu general problem in this thread.Loot, yes. I've seen no permission for mutilation.Again, that really has to depend on the context. A Good character should not be going into town, enchanting ranom townsfolk, and compelling their actions. Doing the same to opponents in the heat of battle is another matter. What's more, there is a question about the suffering caused by this enchantment - if you use an enchantment spell to force information out of an opponent, the opponent is not harmed by your actions. The same is not true of torture.Many villains regard their actions as being good, act "for the greater good", or have good intentions. It is their actions that make them Evil. The same is true of Jack Bauer.</blockquote>

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