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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 2833483" data-attributes="member: 11760">I didn't mean to offend. I get a vicarious thrill watching action movies and I, say, greatly enjoy the Sopranos and the Shield and root for the protagonists, but I'm never fooled into thinking that Tony Soprano isn't Neutral Evil or that Vic Mackey isn't (at best) Chaotic Neutral. Liking someone and thinking they're a "good guy" doesn't have to go hand-in-hand. Heck, just look at how people vote. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Especially in D&D, where there are ample forms of magic (and psionics, so those folks don't get left out) to compel someone to do something, starting with humble level 1 spells, there's always a feasible way. I reject the question, even if it's allowed that it's contrived.This is especially true when extrapolated out towards a more realistic scenario in 24 (although it's at least as fantastic as anything in D&D, IMO). Although CTI seems to have some problems with basic Internet security ("it's going to take me 15 minutes to open a socket!"), the team is capable of near-miraculous feats in a relatively short period of time. The aforementioned faked-up executions took a great deal of time and resources to put together. Given time, resources and ample imagination, Jack did not choose the only option, he chose the option he wanted to do. There's no figleaf of necessity he can hide behind when we discuss this evil act. (Man, I should copyright "figleaf of necessity." That's good. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />)There are times when it's the easiest course available and the alternative is very, very, very difficult. But it's never the only option.Yeah, it's 007 as NE and the Godfather of Soul being CN. I think Jack Bauer is, at best, right around True Neutral, but he mostly gives his DM a headache, I think.</blockquote>

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