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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1677125" data-attributes="member: 3146">Well, you can do that. On the other hand, it's not exactly rocket science. Since you don't know how many hit points the guy had to start with or what level he is, beating him for 140 points of nonlethal damage will keep a first level foe unconscious till he dies of thirst and will keep a 10th level foe unconscious until sometime during the night--exactly the right time for an escape attempt. You could put 480 points of non-lethal damage into your foe but then you'll be doing either a LOT of healing or a LOT of waiting if you want to question a non-high level foe before he starves to death.Which works just fine as long as he's still there in the morning. But if he isn't still there in the morning, (or if the evil cultist used his Death Touch ability on himself to commit suicide) it's too late.Make that say "permanent and direct physical harm" and you'd be right. Of course, reasonable DMs might decide that the rules aren't intended to simulate that and alter those rules on an ad-hoc basis. Other DMs who want to remain strictly within the rules might look up starvation and thirst rules and apply them.</blockquote>