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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 2214175" data-attributes="member: 2067">Let's say there's this Deva. And I kill it. It's not an oh-so-cliche fallen angel, nor is it a misguided spirit -- it is still Good, and it is acting in the interests of Good as I kill it. I have no intention of fullfilling what it was doing...I don't even know what it was doing, so I really can't. It was an agent and representative of Goodness, Kindness, Compassion, and All Those Wonderful Things, and I snuffed out it's existence. It was going to save drowning puppies, but I didn't know that (though I do know that Devas are inherently pretty much Good creatures), and I put a chiv in it. Did I do a bad thing?[Edit...perhaps some perspective]On the flip side, is killing an Evil thing an inherently Good act? Let's say there's this Yugoloth. And I kill it. It's not some redeemed soul or some reformed spirit -- it's still Evil, and is actin in the interests of Evil as I kill it. I have no intention of carrying on with it's evil, but I didn't know what it was doing, so it wasn't like I was trying to thwart his plans, either. It was an agent and representative of Evil, Corruption, Maliciousness, and All Those Horrible Things, and I snuffed out it's existence. It was going to burn down an orphanage, but I didn't know that (though I do know that Yugoloths are inherently pretty much Evil creatures), and I put a chiv in it.Did I do a good thing?[spoiler]Long-Winded Spoiler Explanation: Because according to the Blood War, fiends kill things that are Evil all the time, and yet remain Evil...so how is killing something that is Good different?Also, I ask because in desgning my next campaign setting, I've run aground of something. I made it a world where planar portals are slowly dissolving it's essence. The idea is that whenever something enters from another plane, the material plane gets corrupted and tainted and punched through, and that, slowly but surely, the material plane is being destroyed by things being summoned/conjured into it, and the portals that occur within it. It's on the verge of collapse, with more planar creatures coming through each day. No one knows what will happen when it collapses...it's not nessecarily the End of the World, but it's definately going to change the world forever. Arrayed on one side is the Grand Church, which sees this as the process of the Coming of the Gods -- basically, the more holes there are in the fabric of the material plane, the closer everyone is to uniting with the heavens above, which is definately a Good Thing. On the other side is a loose coalition of fey and dragons who, intrinsically tied to the Material Plane, don't want that Comong to happen. They want to mend the holes and stop Outsiders from coming through. This includes demons and devils, but also includes Devas and Fiends.So in the PC's home village, there is a conflict between the local dragon-witch and the local priest of the Grand Church. The dragon-witch's friend, a Guardian Naga, is the town's spirit protector, and has defended the town against the coming of fiends, but also has destroyed the Good outsiders she has come accross, usually with little warning. The idea is that the Good Outsiders would want to hasten the Coming of the Gods, and don't want to heal the Material Plane. But are the dragons and fey inherently evil (or even inherently non-good) because they want to keep the Material Plane intact, and thus keep the people from what may be Heaven on Earth? Can you have a good alignment and not want to destroy the world in all it's evil?[/spoiler]</blockquote>

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