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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 2218885" data-attributes="member: 18549">On the other hand, if I were Evil, and I knew that the cataclysm would let Good win, I'd be trying to convince everyone that I thought I was going to win if the material plane collapsed.  The claims of Law and Chaos complicate things...[edit, to add]I think that while it might be worth noting that Chaos might not be into a universe in which they "win" since it will end conflict, it's important to remember what's supposedly at stake here.  The prize is the alteration of the material plane to bring about not just a practical victory for an alignment, but an ontological victory.  In a Chaos-dominated universe, there's no end to conflict, because conflict and disorder are the prize.  Law will be abolished, and then eternal freedom from order will ensue.  Perhaps the conflict between good and evil will be realized by a chaos-dominant material plane, as the forces of freedom (Chaotic Good) do battle with the forces of destruction (Chaotic Evil).In any case, if one alignment wins, it's not going to make things all that much better, as we can see above.  If Good wins, then Lawful Good and Chaotic good will bicker for control of the world.  If Chaos or Law wins, it'll only escalate the good/evil conflict by removing a complicating variable.  If Evil wins, well, the Blood War will be coming to your town.</blockquote>