Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
NOW LIVE! Today's the day you meet your new best friend. You don’t have to leave Wolfy behind... In 'Pets & Sidekicks' your companions level up with you!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition (A5E)
Is Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition compatible with D&D 5E?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Rant" data-source="post: 8454545" data-attributes="member: 7033019"><p>There are bigger issues for martial classes than some are noting. If someone played a Barbarian who used original Polearm Master and Sentinel together to act as a defender for weaker party members by hitting an enemy as it closed range and stopping its movement, their character doesn’t exist in Level Up, due to feat changes. They can now eat an enemy’s reaction, instead, so the feats they used to rely on to perform don’t exist in the same form. Same with a fighter built around optimized nova rounds with Great Weapon Master.</p><p>A Wizard focused on shutting down enemy spellcasters with counterspell loses their effectiveness. There are a lot of examples of how O5E builds “don’t work” anymore with the new rule set.</p><p>That’s fine since the two are different rule sets, and you can totally use Level Up to run a module written for D&D, but no, you can’t really play D&D classes with Level Up classes since they won’t work the way they used to. </p><p>Others noted, it’s a lot like Pathfinder, but more extreme, since Pathfinder did not change many basic mechanics from 3.5, it just added new ones. Level Up also changes basic mechanics. Critical Hits work differently. There’s universal maneuvers like Press The Attack that used to be the realm of dedicated class features. </p><p>It’s a bigger shift than Pathfinder was from 3.5. It wasn’t a good idea to try to play 3.5 classes alongside Pathfinder classes, and it really really doesn’t work for Level Up. Adventure compatibility seems solid, but rules compatibility by definition doesn’t exist because it’s a different rule set. Obviously classes built around a different rule set can’t work around classes designed around a new one, and vice-versa.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rant, post: 8454545, member: 7033019"] There are bigger issues for martial classes than some are noting. If someone played a Barbarian who used original Polearm Master and Sentinel together to act as a defender for weaker party members by hitting an enemy as it closed range and stopping its movement, their character doesn’t exist in Level Up, due to feat changes. They can now eat an enemy’s reaction, instead, so the feats they used to rely on to perform don’t exist in the same form. Same with a fighter built around optimized nova rounds with Great Weapon Master. A Wizard focused on shutting down enemy spellcasters with counterspell loses their effectiveness. There are a lot of examples of how O5E builds “don’t work” anymore with the new rule set. That’s fine since the two are different rule sets, and you can totally use Level Up to run a module written for D&D, but no, you can’t really play D&D classes with Level Up classes since they won’t work the way they used to. Others noted, it’s a lot like Pathfinder, but more extreme, since Pathfinder did not change many basic mechanics from 3.5, it just added new ones. Level Up also changes basic mechanics. Critical Hits work differently. There’s universal maneuvers like Press The Attack that used to be the realm of dedicated class features. It’s a bigger shift than Pathfinder was from 3.5. It wasn’t a good idea to try to play 3.5 classes alongside Pathfinder classes, and it really really doesn’t work for Level Up. Adventure compatibility seems solid, but rules compatibility by definition doesn’t exist because it’s a different rule set. Obviously classes built around a different rule set can’t work around classes designed around a new one, and vice-versa. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition (A5E)
Is Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition compatible with D&D 5E?
Top