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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5678959" data-attributes="member: 22779">I think KM's version of Mundane and Mythic really do nail it better than my "traditional" line.  Because, to be honest, there's all sorts of Mundane fantasy out there - Moorcock does some fantastic stuff in this vein.Oh, and it's totally a preference thing.  I'm glad nobody jumped on me for a sort of "neener neener, I think my fantasy is better than yours" thing.  Totally not where I was going with this.  I have a preference, but, that doesn't mean I think it's actually better.And, Jacob Marley, I do agree that there is a spectrum here as well.  Something like Mary Stewart's Merlin series is very much in the "myth" camp and it's something I really do like.  If you take it that far, where there is barely any magic at all and the fantastic elements are so far behind the scenes that they might not even exist, then I have no problems.Middle Earth, OTOH, bugs me to no end.  I mean, here's Sauron.  He's a big bad, nasty guy.  Kicks the crap out of Middle Earth in the time of Isildur until he get's his finger chopped off.  Ok fine.  2500 years later he comes back.  And Middle Earth looks pretty much EXACTLY the same as it did in Isildur's (sp) time.  If I wrote LoTR, the first time the Fell Beasts flew over Gondor, they'd get studded with massive bolts from a 25 quarrel mangonel at a range of about a quarter of a mile.  Those Oliphants?  Yeah, the arbilesters using 1500 pound draw siege crossbows drop those bad boys at several hundred yards.  Oh, and those masses of undisciplined orcs?  They get munched up by Gondor's heavy infantry setting shields into phalanxes which didn't even exist the last time around.  Rohan's cavalry is riding horses and using tactics that they've developed over the past couple of millenia dealing with all sorts of enemies.In other words, Sauron's forces go down like chumps because it's really easy to be the big bad ass when you're facing guys with no armor and bronze spears.  It's a bit different when you're facing the army of a nation that's existed unbroken for the past 2500 years.</blockquote>

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