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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5680237" data-attributes="member: 22779">I think that particular example is flawed.&nbsp; 1500 AD China was SIGNIFICANTLY more technologically advanced than pretty much any other nation on the planet.&nbsp; Look at the Chinese Treasure Fleets if you want more.&nbsp; Granted, once China closed its borders in the 15th century (ish) it stagnated quite a lot.I would also point out that Central American technology in the 15th century equaled Europe when it came to things like glass and pottery.&nbsp; It's generally considered that the lack of horses or large draft animals that retarded their advancement in other areas.Sorry, misspoke.&nbsp; Meant 2500 years before the time of LoTR.&nbsp; Which would acutally match what you're saying pretty closely.&nbsp; And, while you do have cavalry as well, it's not what people generally consider to be cavalry - guys with lances and the like.&nbsp; Horse archers and hoplites were more the norm.&nbsp; Oh totally.&nbsp; This is 100% a preference thing.&nbsp; Like I said at the outset, I'm a much larger SF fan than fantasy and this is the main reason.&nbsp; If you have an immortal race living on your world, that's going to have an ENORMOUS impact on the world, IMO.&nbsp; The idea of &quot;world in decline&quot; just never really appealed to me that much I guess.&nbsp; Even the whole &quot;dark ages&quot; thing seems to be getting debunked pretty thoroughly in historical circles.&nbsp; Progress might get stalled in some areas typically due to some fairly specific reasons, but, it's rare that it ever goes into decline.Again, totally my own opinion and not meant as a blanket sort of thing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5680237, member: 22779"] I think that particular example is flawed. 1500 AD China was SIGNIFICANTLY more technologically advanced than pretty much any other nation on the planet. Look at the Chinese Treasure Fleets if you want more. Granted, once China closed its borders in the 15th century (ish) it stagnated quite a lot. I would also point out that Central American technology in the 15th century equaled Europe when it came to things like glass and pottery. It's generally considered that the lack of horses or large draft animals that retarded their advancement in other areas. Sorry, misspoke. Meant 2500 years before the time of LoTR. Which would acutally match what you're saying pretty closely. And, while you do have cavalry as well, it's not what people generally consider to be cavalry - guys with lances and the like. Horse archers and hoplites were more the norm. Oh totally. This is 100% a preference thing. Like I said at the outset, I'm a much larger SF fan than fantasy and this is the main reason. If you have an immortal race living on your world, that's going to have an ENORMOUS impact on the world, IMO. The idea of "world in decline" just never really appealed to me that much I guess. Even the whole "dark ages" thing seems to be getting debunked pretty thoroughly in historical circles. Progress might get stalled in some areas typically due to some fairly specific reasons, but, it's rare that it ever goes into decline. Again, totally my own opinion and not meant as a blanket sort of thing. [/QUOTE]

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