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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5683883" data-attributes="member: 54877">For me, this is aspect is like a bit of horror or Monty Python jokes in an otherwise straight fantasy game.  I don't mind it as a sauce, but I don't want it becoming an actual course.  So magical hot tubs--good.  Magical forge that lets them turn out something cheaply that is supposed to cost more, thus wrecking the economy of the game world--not so good. Not that I mind squashing things like this that get out of hand.  As far as I'm concerned, things like the Wall of Iron in 3E are presumed to have some unspecified drawbacks that make factory-like production of iron not worth it.  It is more reverse-engineering than having to spell everything out, but I think it allows holes in rules to not have terrible effects: 1. The people of the game world are not universally morons.2. If there was a way to exploit X easily, someone would do so.3. No one has.4. Therefore, the reality makes sense, but the game rules that model that reality are missing something that explains why it doesn't work. Perhaps with wall of iron, multiple castings in short periods of time produce progressively poorer quality of iron.  Or something else.  It really doesn't matter until it comes up in play. Not that I advocate deliberately littering the rules with opposed but unexplained drawbacks, or even outright paradoxes.  It has to look semi-plausiable to a casual glance.  But in general, the attitude of, "exploit the game model as if the game model perfectly matched the reality being modeled," is one I find distinctly not fun in play--and highly counter-productive to heroic action.</blockquote>

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