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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Shaman" data-source="post: 2840738" data-attributes="member: 26473">Since the options were yay or nay, I voted yes. I think my more inclusive answer is, "It depends."I like magic to be rare, dangerous, and a bit unpredictable. The safe, reliable technological magic of core Dungeons and Dragons doesn't appeal to me - I prefer magic as presented in Conan RPG or Call of Cthulhu.The two roleplaying games that I enjoy most are d20 Modern and classic Traveller. In d20 Modern, magical FX can be added or removed readily, and there are well-developed options on how magic can be incorporated into the game. I've hombrewed six different Modern campaigns and settings - one included incantation magic (along with sci-fi technology), one included psionics (with a bit of sci-fi tech), one included sci-fi technology, and three did not incorporate FX at all. (Of the three latter games, the genres were police-procedural, Wild West, and modern military.) None used D&D-style fire-and-forget magic. As far as magical monsters go, the incantation magic game included undead, but no fiends, magical beasts, or the like.Traveller includes psionics and sci-fi technology, but "magic" in the conventional sense of the word is not included in the core rules. I have introduced "supernatural" effects as plot devices and the odd, rare bit of super-advanced technology that are beyond explanation by current science, but no "spells" or spellcasters or magic items per se.So, my qualified yes: I am much more likely to enjoy roleplaying games that have either rare or no magic.Mark, may I ask what prompted this question?</blockquote>

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