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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5522155" data-attributes="member: 87792">Yes.&nbsp; It effectively gives three basic attacks worth of power.&nbsp; Effective - but not even that powerful (it does little in solo fights for instance).&nbsp;&nbsp;Off three basic attacks from three different people?&nbsp; What are your barbarian's statics?&nbsp; Because I make it something like d12 (weapon) +6 (stat) + 4 (weapon) + 2 (focus) + 4 (item) + 8 (fudge for other bonusses) = 30 on average.&nbsp;By comparison average damage from an ordinary level monster should be 17+8 = 25.&nbsp; From an average brute or artillery it's this * 1.25 = 33.&nbsp; Or more than your barbarian does on a basic attack.&nbsp; (Yes, they do more on encounter powers or even at wills - but this is just a basic).&nbsp; So the barbarian would only do the damage of a brute or artillery.&nbsp; (And the to hit will be similar - which is why for balance against monsters you don't need the extra roll).&nbsp;&nbsp;Absolutely nothing - and nothing's preventing them crashing a meteorite into the gameworld to wipe out the PCs either.&nbsp; It's just not fun for the players and the DM has his own toys.&nbsp; The DM has the responsibility to play much fairer than the players do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5522155, member: 87792"] Yes. It effectively gives three basic attacks worth of power. Effective - but not even that powerful (it does little in solo fights for instance). Off three basic attacks from three different people? What are your barbarian's statics? Because I make it something like d12 (weapon) +6 (stat) + 4 (weapon) + 2 (focus) + 4 (item) + 8 (fudge for other bonusses) = 30 on average. By comparison average damage from an ordinary level monster should be 17+8 = 25. From an average brute or artillery it's this * 1.25 = 33. Or more than your barbarian does on a basic attack. (Yes, they do more on encounter powers or even at wills - but this is just a basic). So the barbarian would only do the damage of a brute or artillery. (And the to hit will be similar - which is why for balance against monsters you don't need the extra roll). Absolutely nothing - and nothing's preventing them crashing a meteorite into the gameworld to wipe out the PCs either. It's just not fun for the players and the DM has his own toys. The DM has the responsibility to play much fairer than the players do. [/QUOTE]

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