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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 2935835" data-attributes="member: 22779">Just out of curiosity, since I haven't seen it done, nor looked at the numbers, but, how does a multiclass psion stack up?  Psions use a point based caster system, pretty far removed from vancian magic.The one problem I see with a caster skill is the same issue that came up with the 3.0 bard.  Bardic music was not tied in any way to bard level in 3.0, only the characters ranks in perform.  It was cheesy to take a level in bard, then level up in any other class while retaining all of the bardic music abilities all the way along.  Why take a single class bard?  (never mind the cracks about why take a bard at all.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )Firelance hits it pretty well though.  Because you only gain new spell levels every two levels (at best), splitting up caster classes HURTS.  It's not a case of being somewhat less effective as it is being pretty much INeffective.  Never mind that you pretty much lose any use of metamagic feats as well.And, really, what are you gaining with a fighter/mage?  Some more hit points and a better con save and some fighting abilities.  However, because you can't cast in armor, you still can't stand in combat.  Your hit points are far below what a single classed fighter has.  And, while wizard buffs are nice, because you are such a low level, you simply don't have the staying power.  The single classed wizards just have SO many more spells per day than the multiclass.  The problem is, IMO, wizards and clerics do not scale evenly.  Every level their spells gain in power (if nothing else, in duration), they gain more spells and they gain more spell levels every other level.  A 5th level wizard isn't half as strong as a 10th level wizard, he's a quarter.  As was mentioned, the f/wiz 5/5 isn't an EL 10, he's an EL 7.  But the single classed is EL 10.  This has a pretty significant impact.</blockquote>

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