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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 2936889" data-attributes="member: 114">I think that is more drastic than is needed. You would only really need to revise the way that magic worked.For instance, you could perhaps get a solution to the problem with a magic system that relied upon skill ranks... you gain ranks in skills, they can be class skills or cross-class skills, maybe with certain feats to open up a series of skills (like the way star wars d20 does it). That is only one example, but there are a lot of other non-vancian options existing in other games that could be opened up, if someone had the will and desire to do it.(how does Black Company do it? Sovereign Stone? True20?)Cheers</blockquote>