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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 2937027" data-attributes="member: 3929">True. Unless you allow Practiced Spellcaster, in which case the divide is somewhat bridged. And except for spells which require an attack roll.Yes, they can be replicated by spells and magic items, but those are spells and magic items that arn't enhancing something else.Also, unless those fighter levels were taken at character level 17-20, that Wiz/Ftr has had an edge of +2 to +4 on his Fort saves for many levels. Which is worth something I think, even if it isn't noticable at the near-epic levels.And Shapechange shouldn't really be the yardstick of balance either. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I never have really agreed with that outlook. If taking one calculus class (Math department) makes it easier for a student to pass his Economics exams I'm not going to begrudge him that. Neither will I begrudge a Fighter who wants to be more at home in the wilderness for taking a few levels of Ranger.There is a point beyond which it becomes silly, however. That I do agree. Just not that 4 levels of Fighter is.----By the way, I just noticed you put two spaces after a full stop. I recently read Eats, Shoots and Leaves so I think that's cool. Good on'ya. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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