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Message: <blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 2937587" data-attributes="member: 12460">Someone missed Dragon magazine's Ecology of the Adventurer article. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Back to serious mode. Here is a big problem in what the two camps here are saying. Those who argue spellcaster multiclassing is weak ARE NOT clamoring for Clr10/Wiz10s that cast wizard spells as well as a Wiz20 or cleric spells as well as a Clr20. The ISSUE here is that the presumption that a Clr10/Wiz10 is a 20th level assumes that a Clr10 is half a Clr20 and a Wiz10 is half a Wiz20. But this presumption is completely inaccurate. A Clr10 is NOT half a Clr20 at all. He is more like a quarter Clr20. Compared to a Clr 20, a Clr10's turn undead is worthless, not worth less. If a Wiz10 were half effective as a Wiz20, we would expect his spells to work half as often, but such is not the case when a balor (CR 20) sits before the party. The Wiz10 has a mere 15% chance of even affecting the balor with his cone of cold or dismissal spell, while the Wiz20 has a 65% chance. Assuming the same save DC, the Wiz20 deals an average of 20 pts of damage while the Wiz10 deals only about 12 pts, which is fine, until we factor in SR which averages damage to 13 pts for the Wiz20 and less than 2 for the Wiz10. I'm not even going to go into the +10 relative bonus a balor gets for overcoming the Wiz10's dismissal over the Wiz20s. The presumption that a Clr10/Wiz10 is a 20th-level character is simply inaccurate. That is where the disagreement lies and I think a failure for the "multiclassing is balanced" camp to understand this is why we are arguing apples and oranges.</blockquote>

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