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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 2940269" data-attributes="member: 3929">No, just asking a different question.1. Can you build a Ftr10/Wiz10 to be as effective as a Wiz20?2. Should you be able to build a Ftr10/Wiz10 to be as effective as a Wiz20?(Same goes for Clr10/Wiz10)I'm arguging that the answer "no" to the first question doesn't matter because the answer to the second question is also, "no".All kinds of multiclass characters do have potential viability. Just not the one you want: effective caster/caster multiclasses was a domain of 2e, which was a multiclassing system that was wonky in every other regard.The 3e system works in every other regard to create characters but that one, and even does provide for that one via PrCs. (By the way, why are PrCs anathema; they are core, and not wonky at all. Wiz7/Clr3/MT10 with two Practiced Spellcaster [and why is that feat wonky then, when it fixes a problem you have?] casts as a 20th level wizard, a 17th level cleric, with the spells per day of a 17th level wizard and a 13th level cleric?)The nice thing about the PrC is that when it fuses the power of two spellcasting classes (which is powerful) it ensures that you lose a subsequent amount of power to keep you on par with other classes (HD, Fort save, Turning, Spellbook spells, etc). Hyperbole. The wizard can give up a few levels and still work out ok, he just won't be  the Meteor Swarm throwing monster a Wiz20 is. He'll have to have a different balliwick.  A Wiz13/Rog7 for example will be one sneaky blaggard. No, he won't have the spellpower of a Wiz20. So what? He now has SA and skill points. It means he can't do the same stuff, but what he does do, he'll do better than the wizard.Perhaps I go after my character differently, but when I want to create one, I think: "I want to have a guy who can do XYZ, and these classes will let me do that, so that's how I'll build him". What is it you want your character to do that you want to be modeled by a Clr10/Wiz10? If you can give me a purpose for the character, and something you'd like him to be effective at, I'll do my best to see if I can't find a build, using core for one build and other stuff for another build, that does what you want.</blockquote>

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