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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7156117" data-attributes="member: 6704184">I'm fairly sure that it works thus:The enemy ambushes the party. The AMBUSH happens regardless of any feats. The only way to avoid it is to notice the enemies laying in wait. 1 member of the party has a way to negate surprise. No one else does. The enemy attacks, initiating combat. Roll initiative. The enemies are visible now, because they are attacking because combat happens simultaneously. 5e has no surprise round, and rounds happen simultaneously. The unsurprisable guy, and one other party member, go before the ambushers. What does this mean? It means they react instantly to the sight of the first attacker moving to attack, before the attack mechanically happens. Thematically, the ambushers are just starting to move at this point. Mr. No Surprise gets to act as normal, because his reflexes are that good. He suffers no ill effect from being ambushed. He can't be subjected to the psuedo-paralysis known as Surprise. Mr. Good Initiative gets...to use a bonus action, draw a weapon, and that's it. His reflexes are good, but not good enough to avoid the psuedo paralysis of Surprise. Attackers go, getting full turns. Other party members go, getting their abbreviated turns. Next round, combat runs as normal. There is no reason that declaring the teleportation would be what triggers initiative. It would be the moment the attackers begin to attack. WHich would mean they are already in the space, spells being intoned, arrows being drawn, whatever. If Dary the Rogue is Alert, and beats everyone else's init, he is so Alert and fast, that the moment the enemy begins intoning that attack spell, or pulling back that bow string, he is able to throw his daggerdaggerdagger, entirely unaffected by the ambush.</blockquote>

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