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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wayne62682" data-source="post: 4937386" data-attributes="member: 40455">So last night we had a fight that was an EL 17 encounter:  two ghouls of some kind, two Bodak Reavers, and a Cambion Hellfire Magus, on a bridge of spiderwebs that, if we didn't move constantly, we would get poison damage.  Although we won this fight seemed to be insanely difficult (and our DM was forgetting the Bodak's aura and wasn't using death gaze following a melee attack which weakened us to auto-kill people).I asked him what the EL for it was, since we just hit 14th level, and he made a comment that all the rest of the encounters in Demon Queen's Enclave are of that level or possibly higher.  This seems ridiculously tough for 14th level characters.I once had a debate with him where he basically said that the adventure is scaled for 13th-17th level characters (or some range like that; we started it at 13th I believe) so he doesn't have to scale anything down.  But if all the remaining fights are like this one, I wonder if he screwed something up and if we should be higher level.  The Encounter Builder states that an EL 17 encounter is "hard", but as I recall there should only be a few hard level encounters, and most should be standard, and we've already had a few hard fights.  Now, I have no idea how many encounters are left but IMO something is wrong somewhere if everything else we fight is 3 or more levels above us as far as EL is concerned.  I think if it wasn't for the DM being absentminded and not really coordinating monsters, this encounter would have been an easy TPK.Can anyone confirm or deny my fears that we're in over our heads and we should either A) be a higher level than we currently are (we just hit 14th two weeks ago), or B) the DM is throwing too hard fights at us and should be modifying them a little, or C) I'm worrying about nothing major and should just go with the flow?</blockquote>

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