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<blockquote data-quote="Gargoyle" data-source="post: 4044253" data-attributes="member: 529">I had a similar situation when I switched from 1E to 2E.&nbsp; One player just didn't want to go to the new rules, but the rest of us did.&nbsp; I finally just told him &quot;it's going to happen and if you don't want to play anymore we'll miss you.&quot;&nbsp; When he decided to play anyway, he got a bit childish and started complaining about the rules during the game, so I stopped the game and asked him to either try to have fun or please leave and let us have fun.&nbsp; At this point he sort of snapped out of it and learned to enjoy the new rules, or more accurately, he didn't let the rules get in the way of his enjoyment. Players can do that.&nbsp; DM's are a different case.&nbsp; It is exceedingly hard for a DM to ignore rules they dislike and just enjoy the game.&nbsp; DM's want to be fair.&nbsp; They want to allow the players to have options.&nbsp; They want to challenge the players.&nbsp; They want to quickly design exciting adventures.&nbsp; They want rules that help them do all that.&nbsp; Not all DM's want all of these things equally...some will want to stick with 3.5...some are still using OD&amp;D.&nbsp; That's fine as long as the DM is happy.&nbsp; I'd rather play in a 1E game with a DM that knows and is happy with those rules than a DM who runs 3.5 and doesn't know the rules or ignores or houserules half of the system, or one who doesn't spend much time preparing because they don't enjoy the ruleset.I think the edition you play is primarily a DM decision.&nbsp; But you know, I'd rather play or run any version of D&amp;D than to not play at all...sometimes it's good to compromise.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gargoyle, post: 4044253, member: 529"] I had a similar situation when I switched from 1E to 2E. One player just didn't want to go to the new rules, but the rest of us did. I finally just told him "it's going to happen and if you don't want to play anymore we'll miss you." When he decided to play anyway, he got a bit childish and started complaining about the rules during the game, so I stopped the game and asked him to either try to have fun or please leave and let us have fun. At this point he sort of snapped out of it and learned to enjoy the new rules, [B]or more accurately, he didn't let the rules get in the way of his enjoyment[/B]. Players can do that. DM's are a different case. It is exceedingly hard for a DM to ignore rules they dislike and just enjoy the game. DM's want to be fair. They want to allow the players to have options. They want to challenge the players. They want to quickly design exciting adventures. They want rules that help them do all that. Not all DM's want all of these things equally...some will want to stick with 3.5...some are still using OD&D. That's fine as long as the DM is happy. I'd rather play in a 1E game with a DM that knows and is happy with those rules than a DM who runs 3.5 and doesn't know the rules or ignores or houserules half of the system, or one who doesn't spend much time preparing because they don't enjoy the ruleset. I think the edition you play is primarily a DM decision. But you know, I'd rather play or run any version of D&D than to not play at all...sometimes it's good to compromise. [/QUOTE]

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