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Is my friend's unwillingness to try 4e irrational?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 4044798" data-attributes="member: 8439"><p>You are consistently assigning motivations to other people. This, to me, is <strong>worthy</strong> of villification regardless of topic, and the fact that the motivations are insulting (by implying an irrationally emotional motivation to explain a simple opinion difference) makes it worse. </p><p></p><p>Now, as one of the many folks who simply isn't yet impressed with 4e and gets labeled a hater for it, I do find one part of your story very interesting. If I understand you correctly, you have stated the intent to simply end 3 different campaigns (maybe 4, the status of the Saga campaign isn't clear to me) all at once, just to switch rules. So this player is losing three characters (if your group does only one character per campaign) that he may have been enjoying the stories of, potentially three different mechanical builds he was exploring and three different campaigns that he may well have been interested in the outcome of. All because you guys have decided, sight unseen, to start over within a new ruleset which we know will not support all the character types currently playable in 3e until we've waited a year or so and bought even more books. If he was enjoying all those campaigns, why <strong>wouldn't</strong> he develop a bit of a grudge against the system whose release is causing this?</p><p></p><p>Folks keep mocking 4e doubters, saying that "the game police aren't going to steal all your game books and arrest you for playing 3e, why do you care about 4e?" But it looks like for at least one guy out there, the release of 4e really is the trigger for taking his games away. I feel for the guy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 4044798, member: 8439"] You are consistently assigning motivations to other people. This, to me, is [B]worthy[/B] of villification regardless of topic, and the fact that the motivations are insulting (by implying an irrationally emotional motivation to explain a simple opinion difference) makes it worse. Now, as one of the many folks who simply isn't yet impressed with 4e and gets labeled a hater for it, I do find one part of your story very interesting. If I understand you correctly, you have stated the intent to simply end 3 different campaigns (maybe 4, the status of the Saga campaign isn't clear to me) all at once, just to switch rules. So this player is losing three characters (if your group does only one character per campaign) that he may have been enjoying the stories of, potentially three different mechanical builds he was exploring and three different campaigns that he may well have been interested in the outcome of. All because you guys have decided, sight unseen, to start over within a new ruleset which we know will not support all the character types currently playable in 3e until we've waited a year or so and bought even more books. If he was enjoying all those campaigns, why [B]wouldn't[/B] he develop a bit of a grudge against the system whose release is causing this? Folks keep mocking 4e doubters, saying that "the game police aren't going to steal all your game books and arrest you for playing 3e, why do you care about 4e?" But it looks like for at least one guy out there, the release of 4e really is the trigger for taking his games away. I feel for the guy. [/QUOTE]
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