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<blockquote data-quote="BradfordFerguson" data-source="post: 4047007" data-attributes="member: 20048">bah, I tire of the anti-corporate argument.&nbsp; If it costs a player $35 to get MUCH more enjoyment out of the 100-200 hours they spend RPG gaming each year, then what does that say for spending $2 on an energy drink or $5 on a beer?&nbsp; $35 sounds like a good investment for me.As far as buying all the splat books and Dragon magazine, well, you KNEW those were optional.&nbsp; Those were your choice.The thing is that people think that they NEED optional rules to customize their characters to high heaven, but they really don't.&nbsp; You could have 100 totally different rogues, just from the PHB.&nbsp; Maybe their mechanics won't be drastically different, but they could all fit different roles in a campaign.&nbsp; It's partly about roleplaying.&nbsp; You don't need rules to reinforce a role.&nbsp; Just play the role.Brother Mac, it seems that you are looking at your investment in 3.5 and thinking,&nbsp; &quot;Wow, I spent all that money, I enjoy it.&nbsp; Why try something new that I might like more, AND never use all those 3.5 books again?&quot;&nbsp; In the investing world, this is called sunk cost.&nbsp; Continued investment (continuing to play in 3.5) should not be predicated by sunk costs.&nbsp; It would be the same as saying, &quot;well, I dated this girl for 4 years, and since I invested all that time, I gotta stay with her.&quot;So what if you tried 4E, combat was twice as fast, the fighter/ranger/rogue/monk characters got more combat options, casters got more flavor and the players just ate it up...?&nbsp; &quot;well, I dated this this girl for 4 years, and there is a better girl out there who is totally available to me, BUT I INVESTED THOSE 4 YEARS ALREADY!&quot;That's irrational.&nbsp;&nbsp; But maybe 4E will suck.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BradfordFerguson, post: 4047007, member: 20048"] bah, I tire of the anti-corporate argument. If it costs a player $35 to get MUCH more enjoyment out of the 100-200 hours they spend RPG gaming each year, then what does that say for spending $2 on an energy drink or $5 on a beer? $35 sounds like a good investment for me. As far as buying all the splat books and Dragon magazine, well, you KNEW those were optional. Those were your choice. The thing is that people think that they NEED optional rules to customize their characters to high heaven, but they really don't. You could have 100 totally different rogues, just from the PHB. Maybe their mechanics won't be drastically different, but they could all fit different roles in a campaign. It's partly about roleplaying. You don't need rules to reinforce a role. Just play the role. Brother Mac, it seems that you are looking at your investment in 3.5 and thinking, "Wow, I spent all that money, I enjoy it. Why try something new that I might like more, AND never use all those 3.5 books again?" In the investing world, this is called sunk cost. Continued investment (continuing to play in 3.5) should not be predicated by sunk costs. It would be the same as saying, "well, I dated this girl for 4 years, and since I invested all that time, I gotta stay with her." So what if you tried 4E, combat was twice as fast, the fighter/ranger/rogue/monk characters got more combat options, casters got more flavor and the players just ate it up...? "well, I dated this this girl for 4 years, and there is a better girl out there who is totally available to me, BUT I INVESTED THOSE 4 YEARS ALREADY!" That's irrational. But maybe 4E will suck. [/QUOTE]

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