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Is my friend's unwillingness to try 4e irrational?
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<blockquote data-quote="BradfordFerguson" data-source="post: 4047240" data-attributes="member: 20048"><p>Heh, it's cool that we can all discuss this topic in this fashion <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The key difference between the girlfriend "upgrade" and the game system "upgrade" is that if you switch around, the girlfriend is gonna be hurt, but your game books will not. I can see the GIAG argument and I agree that resisting it is the key to happiness. </p><p></p><p>I realize that a lot of gamers don't have a ton of money, but the concept of spending money to get more enjoyment out of leisure is not foreign. Leisure time has value, otherwise people would always work two jobs (if leisure was indeed "free"). Leisure is not free. If you flip burgers and could work a second job of flipping burgers for $5/hour, BUT CHOOSE NOT TO, then your leisure time is worth MORE than $5/hour, otherwise you would take the second job. </p><p></p><p>Therefore, while no money exchanges hands, the act of WATCHING TV IS NOT FREE (OK, people are gonna quote me out of context, but I don't care). You are costing yourself the money you could make at a second job. You are costing yourself the time of looking for a better paying job.</p><p></p><p>Since leisure isn't free, it pays to make it more enjoyable, AND people do this everyday with HDTV, TIVO (increasing enjoyment value per hour), etc. If I could play a RPG where combat takes 1/2 the time (and is still as exciting) and DMing takes 1/2 the prep. I would pay for that.</p><p></p><p>Leisure is not free, especially if you're with your girlfriend of 4 years <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>ALL THIS SAID, I think enjoyment of a game boils down to a DM's presentation and the players he/she have to work with. Any system could work. I most care about D&D and if 4E is better by leaps and bounds (who knows?) I will pay for that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BradfordFerguson, post: 4047240, member: 20048"] Heh, it's cool that we can all discuss this topic in this fashion :) The key difference between the girlfriend "upgrade" and the game system "upgrade" is that if you switch around, the girlfriend is gonna be hurt, but your game books will not. I can see the GIAG argument and I agree that resisting it is the key to happiness. I realize that a lot of gamers don't have a ton of money, but the concept of spending money to get more enjoyment out of leisure is not foreign. Leisure time has value, otherwise people would always work two jobs (if leisure was indeed "free"). Leisure is not free. If you flip burgers and could work a second job of flipping burgers for $5/hour, BUT CHOOSE NOT TO, then your leisure time is worth MORE than $5/hour, otherwise you would take the second job. Therefore, while no money exchanges hands, the act of WATCHING TV IS NOT FREE (OK, people are gonna quote me out of context, but I don't care). You are costing yourself the money you could make at a second job. You are costing yourself the time of looking for a better paying job. Since leisure isn't free, it pays to make it more enjoyable, AND people do this everyday with HDTV, TIVO (increasing enjoyment value per hour), etc. If I could play a RPG where combat takes 1/2 the time (and is still as exciting) and DMing takes 1/2 the prep. I would pay for that. Leisure is not free, especially if you're with your girlfriend of 4 years ;) ALL THIS SAID, I think enjoyment of a game boils down to a DM's presentation and the players he/she have to work with. Any system could work. I most care about D&D and if 4E is better by leaps and bounds (who knows?) I will pay for that. [/QUOTE]
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