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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 4047265" data-attributes="member: 22622">But are you really going to get more pleasure out of this game? YOu're taking a risk, and he doesn't want to do that.  Half your group is very suspect about it.  Why cause so much disention in a stable group. I don't want to get on the cost and business aspects of the game, the thing is, right now, February 12th, you have no idea what 4th edition is. In June  4th edition can be released and be little more than a spit shined 1e and you've already kick out one guy in your group and strong armed the other two.  Does anyone else picture a mob/mafia mentality here.  As a responsible DM, you should listen to your players, all your players.  Even the one who says different stuff from the other ones, because I've found out, that's probably the one player whose going to be honest with you. The one who will tell you when your descriptions sucked and when the plot is getting railroady.  Dm'n should be an unbiased job, and it seems because you and two of your players agree, you're alienating this player.  Really this boils down to you, not him. Do you want to play this new toy so much that you're willing to loose a player/friend?  Is 3.5 so broke that you can't play it for a fw months until you all can discuss this again with more information?</blockquote>